Comments on: My Emacs Story http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/ Being friends with the code Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:48:58 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: carl http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/#comment-4337 carl Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:12:06 +0000 http://codemate.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-4337 It's definitely worth learning emacs key bindings as you can use some of them in other apps where you have to enter text , e.g. firefox's address bar, Terminal & TextEdit on Mac OSX . The ones that usually work are: C-a e d k f b w It’s definitely worth learning emacs key bindings as you can use some of them in other apps where you have to enter text , e.g. firefox’s address bar, Terminal & TextEdit on Mac OSX .
The ones that usually work are:
C-a e d k f b w

]]> By: Yury Soldak http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/#comment-4040 Yury Soldak Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:19:00 +0000 http://codemate.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-4040 :P http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/graphics/73-05-19.png :P

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]]> By: RealityMistress http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/#comment-4035 RealityMistress Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:19:10 +0000 http://codemate.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-4035 imyvistory I really like vi, it's a pretty cool editr. It has all these neat:%s/editr/editor/IiI really like to use it. I don't understand why people would use emacs.:x Changes made to file, use ! to force :x! imyvistory I really like vi, it’s a pretty cool editr. It has all these neat:%s/editr/editor/IiI really like to use it. I don’t understand why people would use emacs.:x Changes made to file, use ! to force :x!

]]> By: Mikhail Naganov http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/#comment-4031 Mikhail Naganov Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:43:33 +0000 http://codemate.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-4031 I've tried 3 Emacs distros for Mac. The first one is "pure" GNU Emacs that is bundled with OS X. You can run it in the Terminal app by typing "emacs". Its main drawback, however, is that it lacks X window graphics support, which makes some convenient key combos (like Alt or Shift + Arrow keys) nonfunctional. But of course all classic combos work. The second one that I tried was Aquamacs (http://aquamacs.org/). To me, it was very heavy and also it crashed often. So I dismissed it. Finally, I've stuck to Carbon Emacs (http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/carbonemacspackage.html). It is light, graphical and stable. I recommend it. If you're going to give it a try, you can also look at the main part of my .emacs here: http://nmv.tiddlyspot.com/#EmacsConfiguration . It contains some convenient options not enabled by default. I’ve tried 3 Emacs distros for Mac.

The first one is “pure” GNU Emacs that is bundled with OS X. You can run it in the Terminal app by typing “emacs”. Its main drawback, however, is that it lacks X window graphics support, which makes some convenient key combos (like Alt or Shift + Arrow keys) nonfunctional. But of course all classic combos work.

The second one that I tried was Aquamacs (http://aquamacs.org/). To me, it was very heavy and also it crashed often. So I dismissed it.

Finally, I’ve stuck to Carbon Emacs (http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/carbonemacspackage.html). It is light, graphical and stable. I recommend it.

If you’re going to give it a try, you can also look at the main part of my .emacs here: http://nmv.tiddlyspot.com/#EmacsConfiguration . It contains some convenient options not enabled by default.

]]> By: Danil Glinenko http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/#comment-4026 Danil Glinenko Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:12:16 +0000 http://codemate.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-4026 @Mikhail: You're a Mac user these days, aren't you? What Emacs distribution do you use? Can you give any recommendation? @Mikhail: You’re a Mac user these days, aren’t you? What Emacs distribution do you use? Can you give any recommendation?

]]> By: Mikhail Naganov http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/#comment-4025 Mikhail Naganov Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:17:50 +0000 http://codemate.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-4025 @Niels: I agree with you that different kinds of editors and IDEs do exist because different people have different views on what is called "simple" and "intuitive". @Ed Davis: Please see this entry from the manual: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/elisp-manual/html_node/Buffer-Type.html#Buffer-Type and this intro to Emacs: http://xkahn.zoned.net/help/emacs.html (see "Buffers and Files" section) @Michael Mrozek: Umm, people are often complaining that Emacs has a steep learning curve. I think that much of it comes from an "alien" terminology: "Meta key", "buffer", "yank", "kill", "find-file" etc. @Danil: Ok, if you do use blind typing then moving hand to arrows keys is unproductive for you. But you still can try making CapsLock a Ctrl (anyway you don't use CapsLock much, right?). BTW, Emacs has got these key combos because it was developed for the "Space Cadet" keyboard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard) which has Ctrl near the Space. @Niels: I agree with you that different kinds of editors and IDEs do exist because different people have different views on what is called “simple” and “intuitive”.

@Ed Davis: Please see this entry from the manual: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/elisp-manual/html_node/Buffer-Type.html#Buffer-Type and this intro to Emacs: http://xkahn.zoned.net/help/emacs.html (see “Buffers and Files” section)

@Michael Mrozek: Umm, people are often complaining that Emacs has a steep learning curve. I think that much of it comes from an “alien” terminology: “Meta key”, “buffer”, “yank”, “kill”, “find-file” etc.

@Danil: Ok, if you do use blind typing then moving hand to arrows keys is unproductive for you. But you still can try making CapsLock a Ctrl (anyway you don’t use CapsLock much, right?). BTW, Emacs has got these key combos because it was developed for the “Space Cadet” keyboard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard) which has Ctrl near the Space.

]]> By: Danil Glinenko http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/#comment-4024 Danil Glinenko Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:56:43 +0000 http://codemate.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-4024 @David: I have TextMate and use it occasionally it's a great editor it almost does everything I want except Vim key bindings. :) I don't really like to move my hand to arrow keys for navigation, I like to stay close to my "home row" and I guess my fingers are not strong enough to press C-f, C-b, C-n so that's why I've been lately using Vim. Opps... isn't this post about Emacs? :) @David: I have TextMate and use it occasionally it’s a great editor it almost does everything I want except Vim key bindings. :) I don’t really like to move my hand to arrow keys for navigation, I like to stay close to my “home row” and I guess my fingers are not strong enough to press C-f, C-b, C-n so that’s why I’ve been lately using Vim. Opps… isn’t this post about Emacs? :)

]]> By: David http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/#comment-4023 David Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:37:42 +0000 http://codemate.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-4023 TextMate is what you're looking for, I think ... for Windows, the <a href="http://www.e-texteditor.com/" rel="nofollow">wonderfully-named E-TextEditor</a> claims to be equivalent. I don't know, as I've not tried, but it could be worth a go. Lovvve the cartoon, though. Haha, butterflies. I'm going to have to try that. TextMate is what you’re looking for, I think … for Windows, the wonderfully-named E-TextEditor claims to be equivalent.

I don’t know, as I’ve not tried, but it could be worth a go.

Lovvve the cartoon, though. Haha, butterflies. I’m going to have to try that.

]]> By: Michael Mrozek http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/#comment-4022 Michael Mrozek Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:54:38 +0000 http://codemate.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-4022 @Giulio You could just write in the default scratch buffer and hit Ctrl+X, Ctrl+W to save to a file. I think emacs is much easier to pick up than vim because most programs use modifiers for hotkeys instead of using modes. vim is almost certainly faster when you've gotten good at it, but emacs is probably easier to learn @Giulio You could just write in the default scratch buffer and hit Ctrl+X, Ctrl+W to save to a file. I think emacs is much easier to pick up than vim because most programs use modifiers for hotkeys instead of using modes. vim is almost certainly faster when you’ve gotten good at it, but emacs is probably easier to learn

]]> By: Ed Davis http://codemate.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/my-emacs-story/#comment-4021 Ed Davis Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:47:59 +0000 http://codemate.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-4021 "Everything in Emacs is a text buffer." This is very interesting. Can you elaborate some more on this? Any links? “Everything in Emacs is a text buffer.”

This is very interesting. Can you elaborate some more on this? Any links?

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